The Top 5 Regenerative and Oxidative Therapies For Superhuman Energy with Dr. Robyn Benson, DOM

Ari: Absolutely. So let’s get into it. What are these five regenerative therapies that you’re going to be talking about? 

Robyn: Okay. The first one I want to talk about is ozone. And I brought this into my practice about 20 years ago. As a doctor of oriental medicine, early in my career, and what I still see is that people are wired, tired, sick, and in pain. And I was just seeing more and more like acute and chronic illness and I’m thinking, “What can I possibly add to my practice that is going to really help people reverse these conditions?” Like, so much more cancer, autoimmune diseases. And I have to say, ozone is incredible. It’s considered an oxidative medicine. 

So, what is that? I mean, all disease is a form of oxidation, right? Literally, it’s a form of degeneration, accelerated aging. So how do we turn that around? How do we help people with Lyme disease and different forms of cognitive decline, which we’re seeing more and more, Alzheimer’s, and people with just crazy infections? Right now everyone’s worried about the Coronavirus. And this is a go to that we’re helping people to not only boost their immune system but people who are already immune challenged, are getting ozone therapies and there’s a lot to choose from. 

So we just to talk about this regenerative medicine, to talk about oxidative medicine. I mean, truly we are as healthy as our 70 trillion cells in our body. And what’s true is that we are compromised in so many different ways right now. When we think about all the toxins and the geopathic stress from living indoors, and all this Wi Fi, now 5G, people are riddled with infections that they can’t get rid of. They’re getting sick, and they’re like, “Why am I… you know, it’s not just 10 days, but here it is six weeks and I’m still sick. What can I do for this?” So this is when we offer these oxidative therapies. This is when we say, when it comes to ozone, there are many, many choices. 

Ari: I have a quick question for you. So, something that’s not very counterintuitive for a lot of people is, we all know sort of oxidants and oxidative stress, oxidative damage, these are all things that are very much associated with disease and aging. And so it’s very counterintuitive to then be talking about oxidative therapies, to be talking about oxidation based therapies as something that is anti-aging, as regenerative. So can you explain that concept to people before we get into the specifics of these therapies?

Robyn: Sure. So when it comes to ozone, and we’re going to be talking about vitamin C, there are electron donors. So when we think about the oxidative stress of the free radicals that are cruising all around our bodies, these actually donate, these types of therapies donate electrons to create hydrogen peroxide, which really helps with infections. It helps to increase glutathione levels and interferon. So these are some of the best possible therapies out there that are oxidative, but help to create these reactions in our body that turn around; that can reverse this oxidative damage. Does that help explain it a little bit? 

Ari: Yeah. So, let me add one layer, which is, what is the distinction between something that is creating oxidative damage versus something that is an oxidative therapy? Like, why do some forms of oxidative stress actually result in damage and accelerated aging, and are contributors to disease? And why do some have therapeutic, anti-aging, regenerative effects? 

Robyn: Okay, so there are so many things that are causing toxic overload in our body; that are causing this oxidative damage. So, oxidative therapies like vitamin C and ozone, actually, the way when it is given to the body, it helps to increase your own oxygen supply because look at ozone as an O3 molecule. You’re thinking, “How does that possibly add to an… how is that helping with this degeneration that’s going on or these disease processes?” What happens is it breaks down into ozone. So it breaks down into oxygen, it helps to highly oxygenate the system. It helps to reverse these metabolic situations that are happening; that are causing this energy decline that we’re actually not producing any energy in our mitochondria as efficiently. Does that help you understand a little bit more?

Ari: Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, for example, exercise is something that creates…

Robyn: Oxidative stress, right.

Ari: Oxidative stress, but it’s also something that’s profoundly linked with health benefits. Whereas, like heavy metal exposure might also cause oxidative stress and oxidative damage, but is likely to just result in damage, without lots of benefits. My understanding would be, most of this is related to hormesis. And how these oxidative stressors in the appropriate dose and the appropriate type of stressor can basically interact with our internal antioxidant defense system in a way that bolsters that system, so that it becomes more resilient against a broad range of other stressors. 

Robyn: Exactly. 

Ari: Okay. Got it. So, which of these five regenerative therapies do you want to get into first, ozone? 

Robyn: Ozone, for sure, because this is the one that we use the most here and where we have seen the most dramatic effects in our patients. And we’ve been doing this for almost two decades and people come from I’m all over the country to get these therapies. Whether we’re injecting ozone in their joint or we’re doing major autohemotherapy, where we’re taking maybe 60 to 200 cc’s of their blood, and then we’re infusing it with ozone. And you can just see it before your very eyes, the shifts that are happening with the blood and that goes into the body, and it immediately helps with the oxygenation that’s necessary. So it’s like a mini dialysis. It’s a way of kind of cleansing the blood. 

I’ve studied with Dr. Frank Shallenberger. He’s probably one of the leaders in the field of ozone, Dr. Robbins, Dr. Gary Gordon. And so what we’re seeing in what happens in the body with ozone is it helps increase cytokine activity, which results in enhanced immune function and stem cell activity. It’s also helpful for oxygen utilization. So again, when we think about this toxic world in which we live in, people are really having trouble with getting oxygen not only in their body but how it’s getting into their tissues. It’s being compromised for so many different reasons. So it increases the oxygen efficiency in the body. 

And actually, ozone has been known to be used in health for over 150 years. It was actually first used in World War Two. So with people that had infections from, let’s say, gun wounds. It was used to actually disinfect water, people would drink water and this is used more and more, now than ever. And it was Nikola Tesla, I’m a big Tesla fan, but he was the one who came up with it, who designed the first ozone generator. So what we have here is an ozone tank that is hooked to an ozone generator and that’s how we get to produce ozone. 

So we are injecting it, as we said, into joints, we’re putting it into the bloodstream. We’re having people, internasally, to actually inhale it, sniff it through their nose to help with sinus infections. It’s actually used for ears, for ear infections. We’re also using it topically for people who have wounds that are not healing. And also, it’s very effective… I don’t know if you’ve ever done this before, Ari. Have you ever had ozone therapy, first of all?

Ari: I haven’t. No. 

Robyn: Okay. Well, there’s a lot of prostate cancer and there are a lot of people with parasites, and lots of gut issues. So, doing rectal ozone, and we also doing ozone for women with bladder infections.

Ari: that’s it, I’m out. As soon as you start talking about sticking stuff up my butt, I’m out. Let’s move on to the next therapy. No, I’m just kidding.

Robyn: Let me tell you how great it is. You know, people get kind of a high from this. In fact, when we are using ultraviolet blood irradiation or we’re doing major autohemotherapy with ozone, I mean, people can walk in here kind of like feeling like they’re on their deathbed and just feel that shift in their body. I mean, it’s like you can see that their lights are going on in their eyes and they can breathe better. So it’s incredibly effective for helping people with these degenerative diseases. And this is the flu, right? People are worrying about the flu. 

So people are coming in and they know that they’ve been on antibiotics, they’ve been eating healthy, but they still can’t get rid of their cough or they’re still having horrible body aches. And usually this one or two, or three treatments of ozone can be the shift that they needed. So, ozone is fantastic, as I mentioned, for viruses, it’s good for arterial plaque. We see a lot of that. What is plaque in the body? Very often, there’s infection. There’s low grade mycoplasma. There’s some type of infection that’s causing this plaque buildup. It accelerates the citric acid cycle. This is all about how we’re producing energy in our mitochondria. It also increases interferon. You know how important that is. And it stimulates production of tumor necrosis factor. So there’s so much of this going on, right? We don’t say we treat cancer but it’s incredibly effective. 

We had a patient recently who had skin cancer on his hand, and they went in and they cut it all out, and then he had a major infection after that surgery. And he was afraid, you know, he went to a wound clinic, nothing was happening. He did one or two hyperbaric oxygen, that’s also really great. But when we did the major autohemotherapy on him, also known as the Ten-Pass, it took about three treatments, and he began to heal. I mean, it completely reversed the infection that was happening. He’s had no sign of that cancer returning. 

And this is very often, like, especially with diabetic neuropathy, where you’re seeing, you know, limbs are amputated when these infections just become systemic. I’m telling you, if this was used in hospitals all across the world, certainly in this country, we would see a lot less, if ever that would have to happen. That’s how powerful ozone is. 

Ari: Wow. I have a question for you. So you mentioned that a lot of the benefits of ozone are coming from oxygenation, enhanced oxygenation of the blood. So, if that’s the case, why use O3? Why use ozone instead of oxygen? Like, why not just pump O2, oxygen into the blood? Or why not go, you know, breathe oxygen from an oxygen generator, like you do like at altitude, for example, or why not use a hyperbaric oxygen chamber? Why use ozone? What are the unique effects of ozone, besides just oxygenating the blood? 

Robyn: That’s a fantastic question. It’s far more powerful. I mean, ozone is really considered like one of the most powerful active forms of oxygen in the universe. Obviously we have the ozone, you know, we have that ozone layer that protects us from ultraviolet light, but its way more potentiated. We do oxygen therapies. We have exercise with oxygen, it’s really great, but it’s not as powerful as ozone. In terms of its effect on the cells, in terms of how it’s breaking down into the hydrogen peroxide and interferon, it’s just much, much more powerful. Oxygen on its own, it’s breaking down into oxygen, obviously, and into hydrogen peroxide, and increases your glutathione, in a way that just oxygen alone is not as effective. 

Ari: So as far as energy levels, specifically, obviously there’s lots of specific roles for ozone in combating various symptoms, various diseases, wound healing, preventing infections, things like that. But what would you say are sort of the key mechanism or mechanisms that relate to enhance energy levels specifically?

Robyn: Okay, so it increases the NAD, NADH ratio, which is a longevity marker, which increases the mitochondria output of ADP. This is really important, the 2-3DPG, I’m sure other speakers on this summit will be talking about that. 

Ari: They might not actually. I mean, I’ve done 200 interviews on my podcast, I’ve never had somebody mention 2-3DPG. 

Robyn: Really? This is very important because this helps to get the oxygen out of the red blood cells and get the oxygen into the tissues. So this is one of the greatest impacts of ozone therapy in the body. So this is good. I’m glad we’re bringing this up. So there are many, many diseases. I mean, the list is so long. So here’s a short list and this is what we’re seeing every day in our center

here, but Lyme disease, it’s fantastic. I mean, it’s actually helped reverse Lyme disease. There’s clinical papers or you can Google that and see the amount of people’s lives that have been upgraded greatly, by actually reversing Lyme disease and other diseases.

Heart disease, we talked about that. Tumors, allergies, sinusitis, gut infections, chronic fatigue syndrome, retinitis pigmentosa, in fact, for any degenerative diseases of the eyes, ozone therapy is really, really effective. Degenerative joint disease, dental infections. Also, I do a lot of ascetics, platelet rich plasma. I do natural facelifts with PRP. So whether I’m using platelet rich plasma in a joint or I’m using it in the face or the scalp, in the breast tissue, intravaginally, I also do it for men with erectile dysfunction, I add ozone. Again, because of that way in which it helps increase circulation, oxygenation, the creation of new blood vessels, and the strength of red blood cells. Like in terms of the red blood cell walls.

So it’s really one of the top regenerative medicines. In fact, a lot of the stem cell clinics in the country, where they’re doing exosomes or some type of stem cells, three days before, you want to highly get the body oxygenated. Yeah, we can have our patients exercise with oxygen but when they also get a Ten-Pass, where they’re getting major autohemotherapy to blood treated under ozone, that really helps to create a much healthier body for a lot of these other regenerative therapies out there. So, stem cells are big and there’s a lot of ways in which clinics are using those, and using different forms of stem cells. 

And NAD, we’re going to talk about too, but we look at things that are helping the body increase that autophagy and get rid of those senescent cells, those… what’s another great word for those? Zombie cells, right? Get rid of the metabolic crap in our body. It’s like scabs in our bodies that stay there; that create havoc throughout the system. So this is one of the great treatments out there. I just want to mention, during the outbreak of, you know, just viruses over the last five to 10 years; that ozone therapy…. So in Africa, what was the most recent one?

Ari: Ebola?

Robyn: Ebola, right. That Dr. Robbins and not Dr. Shallenberger, Dr. Rowan, actually went to these areas in Africa and just did direct ozone to the body. That’s not something that we do here or we did various forms of autohemotherapy. And you know, people would be on their deathbed, I’m just showing you how powerful this is. So the ozone therapies that we offer, again, the ones that I’ve already mentioned, but here they are, again, just so you can have a visual sense. But ozone saunas are really excellent too. We have people sit in an ozone sauna. And again, we have an oxygen tank that’s making the ozone. And you don’t want to breathe too much of this ozone in your mouth. It can be oxidative, it can be toxic. 

Ari: Yeah, that’s what I was going to say. How does the ozone sauna work because my understanding is ozone is quite toxic to breathe?

Robyn: This is where you have to work with somebody who really knows what they’re doing. It’s not something that you play around with. So the concentration of ozone is very, very, very low. Like, when we’re doing like major autohemotherapy, it’s measured in gamma, we might do 70 gamma, but you don’t want to do 200 gamma. And then when I’m doing a ProlozoneTM shot, maybe 20 gamma, and insufflations, even less. So the concentration really matter. So when we’re doing an ozone sauna, we put a protective cover over the neck, so they’re not reading in too much ozone. 

Same thing with air purifiers with ozone, you’ve just got to be really careful. Use them for maybe an hour at a time, have a window opened up a little bit, but it can be very, very toxic in high levels. So people have this tendency, even with ozone, in terms of how you can get rid of mold in your home or after a major fire because it really does clear out the air; it just has to be well ventilated, and it’s not something that you want to have your body in when it’s at higher levels. So you just need to know, you don’t play around with ozone. You definitely want to go to somebody who knows what they’re doing. 

Ari: Got it. 

Robyn: I want to move on because I want to talk about Prolozone because this is probably one of the favorite things that I get to do every day in my practice that helps people with chronic and acute pain. And I can’t even tell you how many hundreds of people that have been able to cancel surgery because of Prolozone. I also do PRP but Prolozone is a lot less expensive. And it’s like crazy to think that I’m injecting ozone to a joint. But what we do first, it’s a three step process, is we actually inject a proliferative agent that’s dextrose, and we do a little bit of B12. 

We have something called [inaudible], which has amino acids and peptides, some anti-inflammatories that we put in there first, followed by the ozone. It is obviously a non-surgical procedure. The effects are really quite rapid. And you can see it under ultrasound, where there might be a little tear in the MCL, you can actually see it go back to its original nature rather quickly.

Ari: I’ve seen some really impressive research on injecting ozone into spinal discs, degenerated or ruptured spinal discs, with some really amazing effects. 

Robyn: It’s amazing. Every part of the body you can imagine. I help restore ankles that have been sprained or strained knees, it’s probably most effective in knees. Again, this is the Energy Summit. There’s so many people walking around in pain and that depletes our sense of wellness in lots of different ways. And it’s just probably the most miraculous, inexpensive thing that I offer my patients. Tennis elbow, any type of shoulder issue. SI joints, right? A lot of people coming in with back pain and a lot of times I just do Prolozones into their SI joints, done; one session. 

Hip problems. You know, help people that are scheduled that really, really need a hip replacement, and they’re bone on bone. Is this going to really help repair a bone on bone situation? No, but it really still helps with pain, it helps reduce inflammation, and increases circulation. It’s also fantastic, Ari, for scar tissue. I love to just go into scar tissue areas and help break that fibrous material up… out… break it down. How about that? Break it down, and increase circulation, blood flow to the area. 

Ari: You mentioned it decreases inflammation. My understanding is this is sort of hormetic in nature, it’s actually creating some oxidation and a slight amount of damage in the area, in a way that stimulates a temporary inflammatory state. But actually, it’s like a positive inflammation, as in like an acute injury. Like you sprained your ankle, you’re supposed to have inflammation there for a period of days to help facilitate healing. And this is, from my understanding, it’s sort of like just kind of kick starting the healing process of those tissues. 

Robyn: Exactly. So in this slide, to point number three, this causes a local inflammation in these weak areas, which then increases the blood supply and flow of nutrients, stimulating fibroblasts, osteoblasts, chondroblasts; it stimulates the tissue to repair itself. It strengthens and tightens, and it’s rather quick, which is pretty awesome. And then we often will stack… anytime I do Prolozone, we stack it with another one of these therapies I’m going to talk about, which is PMF. We always add that in terms of electroporation that happens, to help get the goodness of this proliferative agent that we inject in, to have even a longer lasting, amplified effect. 

So, Prolozone is just really important. I just want as many people that are listening to know about this and pretty much, you can find somebody in all the major cities that offer Prolozone. Gosh, it’s true, it resolves pain in about 80% of my patients and pain is the number one reason people go to doctors in the first place. And we think about the loss of work productivity, all the people that… you know, the opiate addiction that’s going on. Getting people off pain pills, period, is great. And quite frankly, when people do these type of regenerative therapies, we get them off ibuprofen, we get all NSAIDs. 

We don’t want them to take anything, like a week to two weeks before they come in, to really help their body be able to allow what’s possible with… again, it’s creating inflammation, so they might have a little bit pain afterwards but we don’t want them to take something that’s going to reverse the effects of this. So it’s incredible. I just can’t overemphasize how helpful this is to people. And even elderly patients who are already looking at their mitochondrial deficiency, right? They’re not producing as much energy and it doesn’t matter, age. I mean, of course, the younger people get better faster, but we help a lot of people in their 80s and 90s get back to those activities of daily living. People are depressed when they’re in pain, right? And they can’t do what they want to do. So it’s quite amazing.